Issue № 6: New Releases
htmx 1.6.1 out soon
1cg htmx 1.6.1 slated for release tomorrow
test suite here: https://dev.htmx.org/test/1.6.1/test/index.html
release notes here: https://dev.htmx.org/posts/2021-11-22-htmx-1.6.1-is-released/
_hyperscript 0.9 released
Highlights include:
whenclause for show- ES Module support
continuefor loops- and much more!
https://hyperscript.org/posts/2021-11-02-hyperscript-0.9-is-released/
_hyperscript noticed by openxtalk.org
OpenXTalk is the working name of a fork of the now unsupported LiveCode Community project, with the goal of keeping a FREE OPEN SOURCE xTalk language publicly available.
xTalk is a loosely defined family of scripting languages. The mother of all xTalk languages is HyperTalk, the language used by Apple’s HyperCard environment.
JargonTheTerrible Hello, dropping in from openXtalk.org where I’ve been arguing my head off trying to convince them to do what you are already doing here. But what we have that you don’t have is a sexy drag and drop GUI and I wanted to say “Hey lets work together!”…You can get the livecode community edition here: https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22LiveCode%2C+Inc.%22 and after some poking around you might come to a conclusion of how developers could make the same thing entirely in a browser. At the user level obfuscating all that HTML you are strangling hypertalk with until it’s compiled for distribution.
benpate I’m currently (slowly) working on a WYSIWYG tool for regular people to make their own web pages (aren’t we all?) […] I think tools like this should make it easy for professional designers to put up strong guard rails around their work, while giving regular people enough customization to make it feel “personal”.
While _hyperscript takes a lot from its ancestor HyperTalk, it’s designed for HTML through-and-through. However, it’s also designed to be extensible — if you can write JavaScript, you can add features to _hyperscript. An end-user app builder like HyperCard for our decade is a very noble (and fun) goal.
Deniz Akşimşek _hyperscript / openxtalk / livecode / gui builder thought dump
I shared this with @1cg earlier and he mentioned the possibility of adding _hyperscript to it: https://mmm.page/
The dev didn’t seem interested in that, but it’s the first page builder I’ve liked since I learned HTML. One impression I have of consumer dev tools – and this might be way off, feel free to correct me @JargonTheTerrible – is that they eventually get used for professional software, and become more and more catered to that (maybe because those people can pay). Both mmm and _hs have an “intentionally unscalable” approach that I like.
💙 to the OpenXTalk project!
“Intentionally unscalable”
"(hyperscript has) an 'intentionally unscalable' approach that I like" –@DenizAksimsek👑
@devmodefm - plan on discussing 👆this concept next week
1cg @Deniz Akşimşek I have now promised @andrew.welch that I am going to speak competently on “intentional unscaleabilityishness” so you are going to have to explain what it is to me thank u
WE CAN’T LET HIM KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS.
Josef Erben used htmx to build hoarddit.com
Feeling empowered by the good documentation and useful examples on the HTMX website, we decided to implement infinite scrolling. Half an hour later, we had the first working version.
In a rush of euphoria, we decided to HTMXize the whole project; liking, unliking, selling, buying and updating the balance. It went quite well, we implemented all those features without duplicating code in the backend and on the client.
[…]
HTMX truly feels like an extension of HTML, something that should have been standardized and included in HTML a while ago.
Fubarrr […] I can SO relate to this feeling 😂… that’s exactly how it went for me during The Great Ajaxification of Commspace (public website here commspace.co.za)
the first big wave of public htmx apps is coming folks
💙
https://www.joseferben.com/posts/hoarddit_a_website_to_discover_art/
htmx vs _hyperscript, when to use which?
kirbyzone @ajusa I’m speaking only from my own experience here - not an ‘expert’ on all things HTMX or hyperscript, so please take it with a grain of salt! 😉
I use HTMX to handle interactions ‘beyond the local page’: when you have to send/receive data to/from the backend, an external server or an API. If you want to implement local interactivity and animations that use elements and data that are already on the page, then you can just use hyperscript. In some cases, you might want to use both together - eg., as the user types into your form you can play a little animation using hyperscript, and then when they submit it you use HTMX to send the data and display the response. HTMX and hyperscript were made to play nicely with together.